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we have been following every twist and turn. everything we warned you about, big government issues dating back to the bush administration has compascompase to pass. you cannot afford to not watch this. >> happy halloween. i'm here with the five in new york city. yesterday president barack obama defended his signature legislation despite millions of americans will be kicked off their current health plans. instead of an apology for campaigning on the promise that would not happen period, the president offered simple advice. go shopping for a new plan. >> so if you're getting one of these letters, just shop around in the new marketplace.
that's what it's for. most people are going to get better comprehensive health care plans for the same price or cheaper than projected. >> when people go shopping they might not like what they find. listen to a colorado navigator explain sticker shock is keeping purchasers away. >> how many have you enrolled through the exchange? >> so far not one. everybody has taken a look at rates and walked out the door. it's sticker shock. they can't afford it. >> maybe just shop around. maybe you might not like what you be find. >> so you went from if you like your doctor and insurance carrier you can keep it period to go shop around and get a different price. on top of 40 manile people uninsured and add in 14 to 15 million people that are going to get thrown off, you have a season 60 million people are looking to try to get insured at the same time and can't get on
the website. this is unmitigated disaster for the obama administration. i think as soon as the website comes up, everyone should be mandated. the sooner they realize this thing is going to fail from a policy standpoint not website standpoint, better for republicans going forward. get new people in the house and senate, push it that way. >> i thought it was curious they would write in the speech everybody should shop around. at the same time people report they can't get on the website to do that. deductible increases are surprising people and not only out of pocket costs, the prescription deductible is now giving people sticker shock as well. it is interesting that the white house press core has been pressing the white house for a while. i'm curious how long that's going to last. it's possible they could get
bored with this and try to move on to something else by monday. >> gutfeld, this is a halloween stinker. no good coming out of this. i looked up sticker shock in obama care law, and you know it's considered a post decision condition. i don't know where to go with this. >> it is a post existing condition. >> it's funny. we keep talking about should we -- somebody's head has got to roll. heads rolling everywhere. if you fire somebody, obama is going to replace him or her with somebody worse. he's a bug lamp for bozos. americans have to do the firing. republicans are not off the hook. to sit here and talk about this is terrible and bad, where the
hell are your candidate, alternatives, path to winning elections. you can't sit there and go that person should be fired. that's where you start not where you end. >> you're saying you can't just be against the other guy. come up with something to motivate people to move in your direction? >> come up with candidates that aren't chumps. >> that's frustrating for me. i saw someone on my own net work last night suggest to a congressman, why didn't you warn us if you knew it would be bad? they had been trying for a long time. no one would pay attention until there was a disaster. several members of congress tried to alert people. i'm sorry bob. >> we heard it on this net work. it proves to be true. bob, what is the silver lining? have you been able to find it on this? >> our lead story here, we took our source. that's good.
>> isn't that owned by gore? >> it may be. >> we stole it for a lot of money. >> that's good we use it for the source. >> very open minded. >> if you get back to numbers on this. this is what we've got. >> you want socialized medicine? >> obliterate a whole industry? >> i do. >> why don't you go with air traffic, why don't you do travel, go through construction, make it a communist america? >> i think so. >> thank you. >> i appreciate that. >> i don't know where you go from here. i appreciate you're in a tough position. >> i'm not in a tough position. if i have to say something about obama care it is that the total we're talking about people that may or may not get letters is 14
million people. yes, it is true. >> for the individual market. that doesn't count the people who's plans are dropped by their employer. >> greg, are you putting that out there. >> bob, i like you. you keep bringing up single payer system means the government pays for it. that's socialized health care. that's a difference between right and left. left cloaks ideology. if you said what it is, they wouldn't like it. that's the distinction between right and left. libs are liars of adaptation. they have to sell a razer blade and put it in an apple and hide the ugliness of believes. >> now that i'm thoroughly interrupted -- what is that there? >> this is my cousin seth. >> he looks like you. >> he loves you. >> that's nice. good to see you.
>> that's hideous. >> maybe somebody can explain what it is when you say the left lies about everything. conservatives are getting out there saying everybody loves their health care plan. that's a bold ass lie. >> the exact quote from president barack obama that was the lie is if you like your health plan, you can keep it. >> i go back to everybody loves their health care plan. >> please provide a story for us on that. you talk to the brain room everyday. show me where any republican has said everyone loves their plan? >> that everybody loves their health plan? >> my constituents say they love their health care plans. they have lousy plans. >> you're all right with 14 million people getting thrown off their plan? >> my guess is 4 million get thrown off. >> it's 14 million. 40 to 60%.
>> and people will get insurance. >> how is it then you go into sequester and a couple hundred thousand government employees get laid off and it was the end of the world. if a government employee gets laid off -- >> with back pay. >> and 14 million people get thrown off insurance and it's okay. >> old people weren't getting meals on wheels. >> if you want a prostitute for the insurance industry, go ahead. >> the industry industry is run by democrats. that is true bob. the associations prove it. this is one thing i find completely offensive. if i believe that -- >> get it together for what? >> bob, you're on camera. >> i was going to say i think it is amazing that democrats are actually saying they're having
the guts to show their real colors. it's the actual wolf not the sheep's clothes that they think they have better idea for what you need for health insurance than what you need. that's the root of it. this is progressive liberalism. >> the underlying idea is it doesn't matter if you think the insurance coverage is bad. that's not your right to choose. it's their right to choose. by you saying that means like eric says, you can go into any industry. let's face it. there are 150 million people in america that don't have lawyers. >> no more attacks. >> let me finish. you should have a right to have a lawyer. the government should provide you with lawyer care. everybody should have -- >> on a serious notion in this country. if somebody drops of a heart attack and they're not insured we take them to the emergency room, take care of them.
the cost of that is $60,000. people that are insured pay for it. we're not a country to leave people on the street. >> that's my mind. >> the cost of that is astronomically high. if we get them insured you'd save billions of. >> you don't like that theory. if a guy is uninsured we pick up the tab. that's what obama care is. we that are healthy are picking up the tab for people that don't have insurance and may be sicker. >> if you were responsible and bought insurance on own, you're told your insurance isn't good enough. he says go shop around. that's like shopping around at the soviet union grocery store. the government chooses what you shop for. >> did you get a letter? >> i get a lot of letters. >> from the insurance plan? >> i don't buy from an individual market. >> let's get to this quick.
this will put bob in a better mood. take a look at this. americans on obama care overall eliminate 52%, bob, are dissatisfied with this and say it needs to be completely eliminated or overhauled. vaporize it. >> i'm surprised it's given that low. >> the disinformation we're spreading about this incredible achievement. >> put the poll up one more second. 6% people are satisfied. this is what they're doing. were they no better -- 94% don't think it's working well. >> that's carney and others that logged on. >> they're pushing for the single payer system that we all know it. i think they have said it. >> they should stop calling it single payer. it's government medicine. they're so good at this. >> if they can ever log on or
get it to work. that's the problem. >> that's what sucks, social security is my money being taken. i don't want to do it. >> it was supposed to be an antipoverty program for the elderly. it's turned into more. >> say let them eat candy. >> i've never eat on this show. i'm eating chocolate. >> obama care got you down. >> greg, i don't want you to be cran cranky. i don't want you paying for other people. i'm letting you. >> keep going. >> nothing. forget it. thank you. >> okay. new york city police commissioner has fought for our country, also helped prevent another terror attack on u.s. soil. why did he get a welcome like this at brown university? >> unbelievable.
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new york police commissioner ray kelly went to brown university to speak on the new york police department's amazing crime fighting. in case you missed it, new york is on the way to the lowest murder rate on record. this drop is outpacing the country wide decline due to excellent policing. because crime drop aid lot in minority nakeds, ray kelly saved more minority lives than al sharpton has harmed. ray kelly should have been the head to homeland security. he's a marine, cop, hero. instead obama puts forth jay
johnson, an obama fund-raiser. ray kelly's talk never happened because students forced the cancellation. here are the terds against the words. that was eloquent. the student, cowards, consider this a victory. they're right in they were in the universe where crushing decent is rewarded. oh wait they are, they go to brown. these students would never do this to terrorist scums like bill airs. hence ray kelly that represents the best of what our country produces is shoutded down by the worst whiny rags of achievement
that wouldn't know success if hit bit them in the pony tail. he's the only person to be commissioner twice. he came back after witnessing 39/11 from his apartment window, left his first high paying job to rejoin the police. so imagine you're a parent to one of these whiny stupid brat, spent 40 grand a year on that trash. should have had the vasectomy. that's disgusting to me. this guy has done more for this country than the punks have done many in their entire life. >> they're hypocrites. >> it's the same mind set. they're such asses. they make me sick to my stomach. i might just throw up, bob. >> blow it that way. >> can i tell you how much it makes me wish he was going to be the next mayor of new york city.
this man is deserving, selfless. i'm ashamed this is the lack of discourse and dialogue the way he was treated. people that are such hypocrites about their rights of free speech denied him the ability to speak and the rest of the students at brown. people that wanted to hear him speak. listen to what he has to say. educate yourself. >> why didn't he run? does anybody know? >> i have no idea. >> by the way they had an extended q and a for protestors. he's a democrat, bob. >> i know he is. >> i don't did disagree. it was disgusting what happened. i think you need to adhere, most of those protestors were from providence, rhode island and not students. brown shouldn't have let people in if they didn't have the student id. >> why did they go on campus? >> you're allowed to go on campus.
that doesn't excuse the fact the guy wasn't allowed to speak. >> what should the school do, invite him back? >> yeah. and tighter security. you have a right to protest. have security to remove them. there wasn't enough to get them out. like the thing in congress. get rid of them. go ahead and continue. >> i'm surprised he accepted the invitation. that's remarkable about a lot of people like petraeus. he was going to teach a class for which he is getting paid a dollar. there was all the complaints from the other faculty because he was going to get paid. he said i'll do it for a dollar. that was the treatment he got. he did say as bob pointed out students have been great at the university of new york. i think it's interesting question of whether conservatives -- ray kelly obviously is democrat.
why should you accept invitations if that's the way you're going to be treated. they get your goal to shut down the conversation. >> their goal was # to stop him from speaking to begin with. you know what, brown university should do better. they have a video tape of people acting inappropriately or breaking student code laws et cetera. they should have disciplinary hearings and hold them accountable. there was extended q and a like you said. this was un-american. that's not the principle of this country. >> they can't prosecute people from the city. >> i'm not talking prosecuting. i'm talking student review board. some were. >> it is remarkable he accepted the thing. i'm going to say there are some exceptions on the other side. most of the case, college kanl purses, every one of them has radical bass statards on them.
>> brown university president condemn had the behavior. >> it cost a student 40 grand to go to that school. >> coming on the set we found out the thing they were kplooco pl plaining about were blocked by the federal court. >> he was biassed and had no right to be on that case. bye bye from the bench. >> that's going to put that de blasio in a pickle. it wasn't meant to be dirty. the smoking crack down in new york city taken to a whole new legal. some legal adults soon will not be able to bias smoke. details when the five returns. [ woman ] when you own your own business,
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good name where that song comes from, send me a tweet. >> no. no. >> meredith has a dog named jasper. >> i have one too. this is what we're going to talk about. if you're a smoker under the age of 21 and making trip to new york city, byoc. by your own cigarettes. antismoking bloomberg has propsed to sign the bill. new york would be the first city in the country to have a age
limit that high for purchasing the smokes. i put up a thing. i wanted to see the different ages. at 16 you're a loued to drive a car, 17 go to an r rated movie. at 18 you can fight for your country and vote. at 21 purchase alcohol. 25 rent a car. at 26 you can still be our your parent's health insurance. >> have you ever rented an r movie? >> don't you think it's ridiculous about the cigarettes? >> here's the thing. you can fight for your country but can't smoke? you just made it cooler to smoke for a lot of people by raising the age. teens will have to buy cigarettes from people like me. i do charge. if you're over 18 or look 18 you might not need money. >> that's terrible. >> why is that terrible? >> what else are you going to do? what can you barter? >> bartering is fun among
attractive people. >> vote the people out. >> it passed 35 to 10. >> doesn't this stuff go to the people? city council passes it and it goes right to the mayor and stays? it's not voted? >> they were represented by the city. let me ask you about the guys that run this here. putting that kind of pressure on them to ask for id every time -- >> they don't enforce that. they'll make it 25, 30, doesn't matter. 15 or 16-year-olds can walk in and get cigarettes. i never tried that. >> if you have an undercover cop there. here's the irony, smoke all the marijuana you wanted people. we catch you with a cigarette you're going to jail. this is ridiculous. look at the double standard. i don't get this. >> four republicans voted against this. why do democrats think they can engineer our whole lives?
>> the thing i couldn't get from the research was the evidence increasing it to 21 would stop significantly the amount of young people smoking cigarettes. i think they're going to smoke if they want to smoke. they've got to find a way to get it. the same way they find a way to get booze. it's a teenage right of passage. i don't buy the notion this is going to make a dent in teens smoking cigarettes. what's it cost for a pack of cigarettes? >> $14.25 for a pack. >> by the way, think about the police officers who have to deal with this. there are other things you've got to deal with. muggings, purse snatchings and assaults. you've got to chase people down smoking. >> what happens if you catch a 17-year-old smoking? you don't do anything. >> don't stop and frisk anybody
unless they're splomoking. >> it's not illegal to smoke just to buy it. >> it's going to punish -- the whole thing is ridiculous. >> let me bring up one other point i think is interesting. marijuana popularity on the rise. you have one in four americans say if it was legal all around they would buy it. >> i thought that was low. i assumed it was over half the polls i've seen are okay with the criminalization. >> it says would you buy it? you might be okay with it. >> the problem with the poll they have an equal percentage of 65 and older that say no, none of them would smoke. took them out of the marijuana community, it does get to 50%. >> they don't count. >> they count. when you do a poll like that you try to figure out people -- >> are you saying you don't count? >> i don't count. thank you very much for that. i appreciate it.
>> how do you explain to a teenage son all these different rules? >> i don't. i think the rules are ridiculous. we had this exact discussion sunday. i was like it's illegal smoking. you're 16. he said dad, they don't do anything. you can walk past a cop. he's not going to bust you for smoking. he might write a $20 fine or something. who are you kidding? the laws don't work. nobody is paying attention. why do it? >> can any of these cases hold up in a court of law? >> yeah, sure. they're the written law. how much time and research is going to be devoted to this is the problem. as a legal lover and prior lawyer, i love the law. >> you're a lawyer? >> i love all things legal. i love the laws on the book and laws of the land. it's hard because we won't enforce the laws. let's make new laws when we
don't enforce the ones already there. >> you love everything legal? navy seals are legal. >> i think we've exhausted the topic. >> if you're smokeing -- >> hot. >> you smoke? >> never. i take vitamins. >> vitamin k. >> i can't hear anybody or if you can't hear me. i'm going to get out of here. up next, watch the costume police out in full force. we'll tell you who the political correctness officers are when the five returns.
it's hal lloweehalloween. kids dress up as indian, cop, bad guys, sometimes politicians. it's right? all employees now are urged to attend a meeting because a guy wore an obama mask and straight jacket to a halloween costume party. pottery barn had to apologize for selling these costumes. a sushi chef. it was found offensive. >> these are fun. >> the bush costume was the number one costume and it was not a compliment. nobody had to go to diversity training. i fail to understand what's wrong with the comoeno.
japanese people aren't the only people that have those. i have four of them. >> i call them shorty robes. if you come to my apartment, i have those. >> that's not a shorty roeb. >> the weird thing about this is diversity training. it exists to provide jobs for diversity trainers. it's a scam. there's no way to prove if diversity training works. it's like government. >> remember the clowns that went to diversity training. >> you want to weigh in on this? >> they tried to get know take the test, what do they call those people internal revenue i mean homeland -- >> human resources. >> yeah. they asked me to do tests on sexual harassment and stuff. i flunked. >> you were supposed to do a four hour seminar. >> they don't bother me. the obama masks?
that happens to every president. the comono, i don't know anything about those. >> when a movie character that's a sushi chef and they dress him up. is that racist? do they need training for that too. >> only few people complain. it takes one complaint to get a sponsor off a show to get something to apologize. companies like pottery barn are skiddish, so terrified. what would be great for the white house to do, come out and have president barack obama walk out of the helicopter and say guys, wear whatever you want. halloween isle halloween. >> even better if he wore a bush ha
mask. >> jimmy kimmell got in trouble for this. >> how should we pay them back? >> kill everyone in china? >> that's an interesting idea. >> the kid is starting his life the right way. chinese are the most dangerous. >> i'm going to save you from this. a couple of days later, kimmell apologized. >> he's a comedian. remember that? he's actually funny. i call him a comedian because he truly is one. i think he's very clever. it's children. didn't you see the bill cosby day, kids say the darnest things. >> the chinese government called to complain. >> that's too bad. maybe all the times they intercept our weapon systems or send illegal people for human trafficking or when you rip
everybody off with bad toys you mic with led in them and you worry about that? >> okay. sometimes people step over the line and say it was just comedy. jimmy is a comedian. should he have to apologize? >> the other lesson is children are monsters. remember the difference between adults and children is that children don't have the power we have. if they had the power we have, they would kill everybody. they have no morals. >> he was repeating the thought of a 7-year-old. >> in his apology he said i thought you'd know i didn't agree with that theory. >> he threw the kid under the bus. >> like you would do. >> i'd walk under the bus. >> they should have built the wall of china a lot bigger.
and a lot taller i'm not angry at all. i think the chinese are the single biggest threat to the united states. they make bad toys that poison our kids. take our treasury money. come on. >> you've been angry. we have got breaking news. we're going over to shepherd smith now. >> good afternoon guys. we're just getting word into the fox news desk of what sounds like a difficult situation in butler county, kansas. is that right? butler county, kansas. we're told a school bus has gone off a bridge a short time ago. the first reports came into us about 60 seconds ago. it's our understanding it's right over here. this is just in relation to wichita, where are we? just east of wichita, kansas. this bus is in the water. the sheriff's department there has just confirmed. mark got it over here.
kids are in the water right? >> up to ten in the water. the driver is also in the water. he may be trapped in the bus we're hearing. they're doing swift boat rescues. no word on how many they've gotten out or how many are trapped. the sheriff's department was understandably busy. they're trying to assess the situation. >> do we know what age the kids are? >> we do not. this has not hit the wires. it's barely out on twitter. we just got in front and got to the sheriff's department. we're waiting to find out. the news at this moment, the bus is in the water. children are in the water. their swift boat rescues underway. the driver is in the water as well. we're expecting pictures at any minute. it's time for commercial. we'll be right back. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked himp. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights. my ambulance talks with smoke alarms
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with healthy halloween treats. these are veggie fruit chews guys. >> this is the worst i've ever tasted. >> not good. >> mine taste like broccoli. yuck. >> mine taste like poo poo. >> they're delicious healthy cupcakes. >> this is the worst thing i've ever tasted. >> i need some water. >> how do you like halloween without candy? >> i want candy. >> okay. that really is cruel. could you imagine this guy handed them some broccoli candy and artichokes candy? what do you think about this? you bought your kids candy? did you check your kid's candy for knives and stuff? >> can we not go there. they're talking healthy versus unhealthy. >> obama at the white house is giving out dried fruit.
swear. >> didn't you hate when you'd get raisins? there's only like five in there any way. >> why, because they're black? >> can i make two observations. there's never been a case of a razer in an apple. that is an urban legend. look it up on snoeps. i'm not home now. i'm going to leaf a big bowl of candy in front of my apartment door. i don't want you kids watching this to be greedy. i will say this, if you like your candy, you can keep your candy. >> are you taking your son trick-or-treating tonight? >> we have trick-or-treating in my building. i left a big bowl and a happy halloween sign. it's all candy. there's absolutely nothing healthy in that bowl. i'm not sorry. guess what, they're kids. doesn't mean they have to eat
it. they can cleth it. their parents get to decide if they keep five pieces or whatever. on christmas, kids don't get candy. it's easter and he halloween. >> one more thing. >> if i fall backwards, what are you going to do? >> i'm going to save you. it's a growing trend in business: do more with less with ss energy.hp is help. soon, the world's most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. multiply that across over a thousand locations, and they'll provide the same benefit to the environment as over 60,000 trees. that's a trend we can all get behind.
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all right it's time for one more thing. not a single system, bob. in this halloween theme, this prank warns passerbies by a jack-o'-lantern set up. take a look. that's what happens when unsuspecting and get the pop dancing jack-o'-lantern. >> quickly. my favorite show homeland love it season three. one of the actors in there, saul barrenson, fantastic actor. watch this from last week. watch. >> senators made a career criticizing the agencies about
the lead. his first job in my opinion is win the hearts and minds of men and women in harm's way. otherwise it's just another political appointee holding up his finger to see which way the wind is blowing. >> this is the same guy in elmo and grouch land. same guy. >> yesterday at the sushi promotion for the olympics, i interviewed a kid. we had a piece of it. this is a skateboarder. you get up and eat granola? >> that was my buddy chaz. i get up and eat eggs. >> what time? >> depends if i'm snow boarding or working out. usually around 8:00. i get the workouts around lunch. you get up to the hill before it
gets slushy. >> i get up at 11:00 and have pastries. we're living the dream right? >> we are living it. >> living it. >> living it. >> all right. >> living the dream. >> he's so cute. >> i have to do something. >> that was good. it didn't break. >> smashing pumpkins. >> molly ring wald, remember her in 16 candles. she's in soup. support this woman. the next governor of houston texas, wendy davis. there's no governor of houston. molly, it's been up there 20 hours about the length of her career. >> she's very sweet. >> oh please kimberly. >> i know famous people. my name is kimberly guilfoyle. >> i asked people if you were
dressing up your dog what it would look like. this is a referee woody. >> that's robin beck. >> there's a pirate. love that. batman and superman. look at those. i love this panda. how cute is that? >> and the bulldog. this wins the prize. does that look like one of your dates, bob? >> i find that insulting. my stadates are somewhat -- >> we have a breaking news update. we're going to shepherd smith with the latest out of douglas, kansas, butler county. >> the school bus off a bridge on the way back from school. ten or 11 were on board. this is wichita, kansas. this is douglas. north and east we found the bridge where this bus is off the bridge. it's here on southwest 190th street. you can see the thing here doesn't have the best of
guardrails. that doesn't tell us much except the bus is upside down in the water. ten kids have been rescued. no other kids believed to be involved. the bus driver said to be still trapped. updates as we get them. special reports and chris wallace sitting in. is health care rollout a mess? truthfulness is questioned. it's a scary halloween for president barack obama . this is special report. good evening. i'm chris wallace in for bret baier. on a day that celebrates frightening people. president barack obama has plenty to worry about. in the midst of bad news about the health care plan, the president's approval numbers have fallen to a new low. there are more scary stories of people losing health insurance. we have fox team coverage. lawmakers decide whether their